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PostSubject: Weapons Build Day   Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:44 pm

saturday april 4th. noon. k'urns house. we will be having a weapons build day. anyone who does not have a weapon really should come. k'urn and i will be buying all the needed supplies for blue swords. if there's something different you want speak up now and maybe it won't be a problem. k'urn and i will be paying for all the supplies. we probably will charge for the sword you make but it should be much. we decided to take a hit for the team.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:14 pm

My thought was like ten dollars for a sword. However, when you build your weapon we also want you to build a sword that will go into the loner weapons pile. We need to have plenty of weapons on hand for any newcomers to use, until they can build their own, and it will be good practice.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:30 pm

Sounds good to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:38 pm

I regret to inform everyone that I will NOT be able to host a weapons build day on the fourth of April. I have been incompetent and double booked myself. I would ask if everyone is O.K. with pushing it to the following week, April 11th? Same time, same place.
I greatly apologize, I have a 'thing' going on in the afternoon of the 4th, and I want to devote as much time as possible to everyone who wants to show.
So...chime in, and tell me what a douche bag I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:06 pm

*chime*

douche bag!

lol j/k. it is what it is man well that being said what is everyones opinions? do you guys care to push it back? or should we find a new place to do it. the benefit of doing it at k'urns is that he has every tool you could possibly need plus 20+ years of weapon making xp. so i personally think we should wait. i don't mind sitting out battles at practice so everyone else can play.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:49 pm

should wait till kurn is available. all the LA guys were talking about kurn when i was down there.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:20 pm

Yeah, we understand Crying or Very sad its cool, we know we aren't first priority. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad lol, April 11th sounds fine to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:27 pm

ya k'urns a popular guy. Rolling Eyes lol also your a member a Barad'Dun, everyone of you is a priority!
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:45 am

hey K'urn. I want a long (yet light sword) and a strap shield, a kite would be great....... do you have the tools to help me make this happen.... I am willing to put forth the time and money to make two each happen? I'm pretty sure I can get some golf shafts for the swords and a sheet of plywood is no biggie. I was thinking 3/4" thick on the plywood.... any suggestions?

I can get:
plywood
golf shafts
bolts, nuts, washers
dap

I need:
foam
help

I don't check the board that often so please text/call if I won't see you before the 11th.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:07 am

So is it official?? are we on for a weapons building day on the 11th??...I need to know by the morning....
so I can request that day off...AND possibly borrow a knockdown table from work so we can have more space to work on...

let me know...

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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:19 pm

call it official since nobody is speaking up. were better off waiting til the 11th in the long run anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:21 pm

I would like to build:

Greatsword

Blue Sword


and i need to talk to k'urn about curved shields!
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:42 pm

Cool beans!!! Very Happy Very Happy

Cross ur fingers that I can get the day off!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:29 pm

you'd better! X fingers crossed X
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:00 pm

Ximali.

I have used golf shafts in the past, they can work. However in my experience they tend to come apart early, due to the tapered design. With that said, I do know a process that would work, but it won't last as long as a fiberglass sword might. How long were you thinking?
For the shield, you can use 3/4", it will be heavy. Depending on the size and style you can probably get away with 1/2". I have foam here we can use, ( note to Surt; We still need to get some foam strips). You will also need nuts and bolts each 3/16" or 1/2" whichever you prefer, and fender washers (VERY important). You will need 4, I suggest getting six...just in case. I have some leather we can use for the handle. I also have some webbing, all I have is 1", you should use 2" webbing ( hit up an army surplus store, I know Hann's Surplus on Lake Mead carries it by the foot) you will need enough to wrap your arm, and wrap your body. You've seen my shield so you know what I mean.
I have a jigsaw, it works, but it would be easier to cut with a band saw. if you have access. If you cut it yourself before you come over, the diameter needs to be 2" smaller than what you want the finished size to be. Let me know how big you want it so I can know if I have foam big enough to cover it.

Knubbs,

How long of a great sword? ( i'm assuming you want a red?) How long of a short sword?

Any one else. The more notice notice I have on what you want the better it will turn out. ('cause I'll be prepared)

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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:46 pm

k'urn i wanted to make a teardrop shield as well. i wanted to curve mine though. i remember awhile back we talked about it. i don't remember how to curve the wood though. i have a large barrel.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:40 pm

There are actually two ways of doing it. One is you can simply buy a plastic or cardboard barrel, and cut out the shape you want. Two is, you can do what is called laminating. A process where you would have two pieces of 1/4" plywood glued together and lashed to a barrel while the glue dries. At which point you would simply cut out the shape you want.

Cardboard or plastic would be MUCH lighter. Plywood would hold up better, and is messier.

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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:43 pm

the barrel i have is not long enough for the shield length i want so i'll probably just have to laminate.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:47 pm

Tagging along with surt I'll end up laminating as well!

Smile


Um,
Greatsword Length: 34 inch blade w/ 16 inch handle/guard/pummel = 50 inches total

Bluesword Length: 24 inch blade w/ 12 inch handle/guard/pummel = 36 inches total

what do you think on these K'urn?
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:06 am

That sounds pretty good to me. I personally don't like minimum reds, but [i] have seen people do wonders with them.

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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:28 am

Knubbs what are you planning for your character?
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:24 pm

K'urn,

What was that site you were telling me about for the arrow kits and the one for the shafts?
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:22 pm

-Strider:
Ill have 2 things im working at sword and board and 2 hander for when my shield gets broken.

Right hand: Blue Sword

Left Hand: Curved Kite Shield

Back: 2hander

Belt: sheath for my blue when i pull out my 2 hander.

Finito'

-K'urn

- i was basing blade length on how long unfolded paper clips were on my desk (exm. ~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~)
haha what would you recommend for blade length?
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:45 am

sword -52" blade 20" handle (not including pommel)... red, of course!
sword -36" blade 12" handle (not including pommel)... not red
sword -32" blade 10" handle (not included pommel)... not red
kite shield -finish dimensions 48" x 26" at widest points

I'll make a list of the materials you mentioned and whatever else you indicate.

We'll have to use your scroll saw... I have a steady hand.

Let me know if 1/2" of 3/4" plywood would be best... I want a durable shield... but at the same time I don't want it to be too heavy... does 5/8" plywood exist?

I can get a sheet of plywood, the washers, nuts, and the strap...
cash is tight right now so please let me know if we will be able to build these with the materials available, other wise I'll be happy with a 28" round and a sword with a 32" blade.

We should go with your best judgment regarding the cores.
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PostSubject: Re: Weapons Build Day   Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:28 pm

I don't know. If it does exist that would be good. If not, for proven durability, I'd go with the 3/4". It will be heavy, but to go with 1/2" would be trading durability for weight.
Make sure the sheet you get is in good quality. (As one builder to another, I'm sure you know how to grade wood) lol. If you want your shield curved, you should go with the two 1/4" sheets laminated idea. The starting size for the core will be about 4" smaller than the finished size. You may not have to get a whole sheet.
The red swords would be best done with PVC, the fiberglass I have will flex to much. Hold off on that for now though, because I am hunting for some better foam for reds.

For the blues, we can try the fiberglass I have on hand. I'm not sure what the flex issues may be at that length, but it should be negligible.

Surt and I purchased foam yesterday, so we should have plenty to start. I'm not sure if we'll have enough large un cut pieces for everyone's shields, but it won't be hard to get more. I also purchased some webbing, I think I'll have enough for two shields. So if someone who wants a shield can pick up some more they sell it at Hahn's Surplus (east lake mead) for .44 cents a foot. I bought ten foot.

edhellen.com for the arrow kits... lancaster archery.com for the shafts. I usually go with the Vapor Hunter Black Series #1330047 size 400. That's 32" shafts with a spine tolerance of .400 inches and a weight of 7.4 grains per inch. The bare shafts run $45 for a dozen if you get them made to order it's ten dollars more.

For blue sword lengths anything around 24"- 30" blade, and a 6"-10" handle is good. Anything longer and you run into counterbalancing issues.

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